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Laura: 0:00

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Sophia Noreen: 0:20

Welcome back everyone to another amazing episode of the Boss It Podcast. Today, I am extremely happy to have Sobia Hussain on with us. Sobia is a multidisciplinary entrepreneur. She's a writer and a humanitarian. She operates several creative businesses from Olive Trees Soaps Co since 2011, to her new conscious marketing boutique since 2015. Recently Sobia raised nearly $23,000 combined for Yemen and Lebanon through her walkwithSobia charity campaign in the summer. She loves to integrate her passions and hobbies and her work. Currently Sobia lives in Toronto, Canada with her three amazing kids. Okay guys, I am so excited to have Sobia on. I have recorded this introduction after our interview with Sobia and I have to say Sobia really does drop many hidden gems. Please listen carefully to her words of wisdom, not just in regards to entrepreneurship, but basically on how you can successfully manage many things, even if life throws you a few curve balls. I'd also like to share a review from Aurora.Cass. And she said this podcast rocks need some inspiration? Need to maintain harmony? Have to listen to Sophia for some great life hacks. Thank you so much. Guys remember if you share a review on iTunes podcasts, we will send you our 50 best tips on entrepreneurship, and we definitely will share your review on the podcast. So go to iTunes and leave us an awesome review. All right, guys, let's get started with our show. Welcome to the bosses podcast. My name is Sophia Noreen and I took an Etsy startup and launched it in big box retailers within 12 months. As a creative with an entrepreneurial drive, I left my full time career in healthcare to find better harmony between career, family and self care. We believe you can have it all. Yes, you can launch and run a successful scalable business while maintaining harmony in all aspects of your life. We believe we can learn from each other and draw on many experiences to create the best life possible. During each episode, we will share proven life hacks that will keep you on top and striving every day. There should be no hesitation. Make a plan. Take action. We are here for you. Welcome back everyone, to another amazing episode of the Boss It Podcast. Today I am on with Sobia Hussain. And as you heard in the, her bio, she's one of our creative entrepreneurs and a writer. So she's going to tell us a little bit more about her story, but first I want her to get a little philosophical and tell us her mantra and what keeps her going. Hi, Sobia. How's it going?

Sobia Hussain: 3:09

Hey, how are you doing? Good. good. Thanks for having me here. Okay. So I have two mantras. My first one is "when you know, better, you do better" by Maya Angelou. That one I learned when I was about 14 and it's stayed with me since, and it's something that's helped me through a lot of things. Learning to forgive yourself, but also learning to forgive others and knowing that, when the person did the best they could in that moment. It just allows you to have a bit more self compassion for everyone and yourself. That's one and then another one actually is behind my table. I should probably just, read it, cause the ink is feeding away. I've had this by my bed, for the past three years and then I moved it over to my table. So this one is a "train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose". And it's by Yoda.

Sophia Noreen: 3:59

Wow.

Sobia Hussain: 3:59

Biggest Star Wars fan. It's just really powerful. I have to read it several times to really let us sink in. But when we learn that healthy detachment, you can let go of those fears and just move forth with what you need to do and what you're intended to do and designed to do. That helped me get through a lot of, insecurities and fears and whatnot.

Sophia Noreen: 4:20

Tell us your last mantra again. Let us digest that one because it seems like it's helped you a lot

Sobia Hussain: 4:24

"Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose".

Sophia Noreen: 4:29

"Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose". Wow. Okay.

Sobia Hussain: 4:34

Even though I've read it almost every single day by my bed, I would have to read it several times for it to really sink in because it's so deep and it hits all these different notes for me. Especially the journey that I've been on being so terrified of trying a lot of new things in my life in the past three years has been just this explorative journey for me. The fear factor was always there, but I learned to just let it go in those moments and put it aside and not let it dictate my life and I just move forth with it. And, it was amazing. It was powerful.

Sophia Noreen: 5:08

That is very powerful. And I think when it comes to running your own business, There's so much fear and there's so much risk involved. I think these mantras serve for both life and business and everything in between. This is a good segue into your story as an entrepreneur. How did you get started? And yeah, just tell us everything as much as you feel that, our audience would like to hear. And how does it connect back to your mantras?

Sobia Hussain: 5:33

Yeah. if you think about the first business I started, I was actually 18 years old. And I ran it for a year. I was actually pregnant at that time. I married incredibly young

Sophia Noreen: 5:43

For now for today's standards. I guess that's very young, right?

Sobia Hussain: 5:46

Yeah, exactly. But I was still determined to do things for myself. So I ran up the sandwich making, it was like a stuffed pita business. And I ran it for a year and I would sell these to a boarding school that was in my locality at that time. And, the kids were order and then I would make up all the wraps and package them and they loved it because they hated boarding school food and, cafeteria stuff. So it was a nice, I guess alternative for them, it was healthy as well. I would put a lot of fresh vegetables and stuff in there and add it with some fun, seasoned meats. That was my first stint in business.

Sophia Noreen: 6:21

Wow good job. 18 years old?

Sobia Hussain: 6:24

Yeah, 18. It was crazy, but I did it. Yeah, but I think it's been in my blood because I was born and raised in an entrepreneurial family. My dad has run his own business. He had a warehouse of electronics before Walmart and Best Buys were around. He was really, passionate about what he did and a really key player in the community. I'm in Toronto at that time. Yes, that was my first stint. And then, actually, I think I was 26 when I started an Etsy business. That's where my creative juices start to flow. So I started a, a really unique, children's clothing pattern business. So I had designed really unique patterns for clothing and I was, for children again, cause I had a toddler at that time. So it was influenced by that. And, I would sell them and then eventually I started to add stuff, toys, really unique stuff, toys. And then the demand started to grow in terms of, can you make these for us? We want you to make it. We love the designs, the colors, the patterns, and the fabrics and textures that I was using. So I started to sell, sewn products. But it just became, so it was really laborsome. I had a toddler at hand as well, so I started to explore for things that I could create, in larger scale, at least larger scale, like in my terms. I fell in love with soap making, which was, a passion of mine with science and art put together.

Sophia Noreen: 7:46

Yeah.

Sobia Hussain: 7:47

When you look into soap making it's all chemistry. And I was like, "Oh my God", the geeky of me came out .This is amazing. I'm would go, "I can put art in there. And my passions for science, and this is just a fine in marriage of everything I love to do." And it's helping the environment and our, natural products for the skin. So something like that really stuck with me. And then I, okay. I've tested it out a little bit. And I started to, make soaps right away.

Sophia Noreen: 8:15

Was this part of your Etsy business at the time? We went from like a holding pattern to the stuffed animal pattern to making the stuffed animals. And then you, and it's soap making all under the same brand?

Sobia Hussain: 8:26

So the second time around, I actually officially registered it as Olive Tree Soap Company and I made it real. I'm like, you know what? This is real. I made a bank account, the whole deal. Cause I knew that this was something that I could really do for a long time. I did that in. 2011. Next year it'll be 10 years, so it's been nine years and, I love what I do. And although I had to take a bit of a hiatus in the middle, just through life changes, which maybe we'll talk about a little bit later, but, it's my baby.

Sophia Noreen: 8:55

Yeah.

Sobia Hussain: 8:56

And fell in love with it. I was making artistical soaps for body skin hair, lip balms, natural deodorants were really great hit. There was argan oil imported from Moracco, that was organic. And I played around with a lot of products here and there, but those were the main ones that I decided to, really focus on. And yeah, I love it. So after that, just because of the networking that I did through that business, and I reached out to a lot of, global contacts and, I had a pretty strong network, in the creative world of things. So with that, I was eventually able to branch out and start another business as well

Sophia Noreen: 9:35

ooh, my goodness. You truly are the multi-passionate entrepreneur. I love it.

Sobia Hussain: 9:39

Yeah. I feel like there's no limitation when it comes to creativity. You shouldn't limit yourself and not everything that you do needs to be related either. So the next thing was incredibly differen t. But linked in the back end of things, which was a communications and marketing, because as I was, marketing my soaps as well, I was learning a lot of, just workings of writing. And I've always been very passionate about writing as well. This was a new way for me to explore my other side, like my other interests. And I started to write for different blogs and posts. It helped me formulate a whole new business, which, I started in 2015. I officially announced it just after COVID. I was doing it quietly in the backend. I was really unsure of what I was doing, but it was great because it was actually my bread and butter. I just didn't know how to announce it to people, because everyone knew me as the soap lady. So they're like where this come about from that you're a copywriter and you're doing marketing and you're doing, content and fun stuff like that.

Sophia Noreen: 10:41

Your copywriting and marketing aspect, as to new net new business, do you have that under another brand or another umbrella? Wow. Okay. Awesome.

Sobia Hussain: 10:49

It's Conscious Marketing Boutique. For now it's under my personal branding website. So it's sobiahussain.com and in there, then you can see that I offer all these marketing services and whatnot, and just creative events. I love it. This business itself, though, it just grew with me. I didn't intentionally plan it that way. But people start to ask me and I was pretty good at what I was doing. Having had the experience from my first business, I knew the inner workings because at that time that's when social media was coming about as well. So I was a part of that growth from when it began. And Instagram, I remember came in, after Olive Tree. So I hopped on there from day one Pinterest and you name it. It was pretty wild. And, it was when my accountant told me Sobia, "you're running two businesses. You need to separate these two". Why are these invoices looking like right now? Oh my God, I have another business. And I'm like, I didn't even know.

Sophia Noreen: 11:47

The services for Conscious Marketing Boutique, is that now a separate entity from the Olive Tree Soaps?

Sobia Hussain: 11:55

Yeah. So I separated it. And so now it's two separate businesses.

Sophia Noreen: 12:00

Wow.

Sobia Hussain: 12:01

And it feels pretty good. I'm glad my kids get to witness this with me. Something that I think I'm super grateful for. And I love doing it. I think it was just a gift that just fell in my lap. And I said, all right, let's do this

Sophia Noreen: 12:15

okay. So yes. So tell us about the services that the Conscious Marketing Boutique offers right now.

Sobia Hussain: 12:22

Okay. So for now, I offer copywriting services, for various industries and I can do research for that and write, pieces for them; whether it's for their blog it could be, just,even for social media, for content creation. I do really basic graphics, but my focus is on my writing. And also a social media services as well. So social media marketing. Instagram is basically my focus, but I also do Twitter and Facebook. Also what I actually started doing since COVID was I started to offer consultation for new business, like women entrepreneurs, and just help them take off, for any kind of questions they have any creative, feedback they need. I am there for them. So I do things like that as well.

Sophia Noreen: 13:07

Wonderful. It's amazing. And how has the Olive Tree Soaps, are you still running that as well?

Sobia Hussain: 13:13

I was on this, three-year Hypatia's as I went through a divorce, and I had to do what was actually supporting our family. And yeah, just to be frank, that's exactly what I had to do. I had to see where the money was coming from and what would require, less work, but more income, right? Just because of the way I was, I had to balance everything in my life. I have three kids, so copywriting was really working for me and, and I loved doing it. And so I ran with it and established that for the three years. And now I feel like it's time for me to get back with the soaps, and bring that to life I'm currently working on, not rebranding it per se, but I'm just refreshing my brand and getting that prepared with content, and just streamlining the products, and getting my Shopify website ready. So yeah, that should be coming soon.

Sophia Noreen: 14:07

Yeah, definitely. And so in your story, it sounds like there were a few hills and valleys as well.

Sobia Hussain: 14:13

Oh yeah.

Sophia Noreen: 14:14

Do you want to share, some of the good and bad and ugly, like what was the high, maybe what were some of the bad and uglies? And these are like lessons learned, because I know when we go to things, we take the lessons from them. We all go through these challenges and what we take out from them is the lessons and we move forward with those lessons. Maybe touch on a few of those now, and then we can, we will so get into some advice and actionable plan and how you manage it, everything, but maybe just touch on a few of those good and bads and ugly parts of entrepenurship.

Sobia Hussain: 14:45

I'll stay on the surface with these ones and then we'll go deeper with the other questions. Number one is self doubt and that, imposter syndrome is very heavy and strong, especially when you're beginning and you're doubting every single step you go and how you present yourself online and how your market? It's scary. It's so scary. But, you have to push past that fear and continue going and believing in what you're doing and being authentic with, what you do. And eventually people will start to connect with that language that you create for yourself. It's important to start from your self beliefs first and then externally, people will feel that realness of you. So that's one, two is pace yourself. I think that's really important. I know that when I started my Olive Tree Soap company business, I was eager to put it out in the world. And I was like, working 24 hours a day, almost like I was barely sleeping. And unfortunately that played a huge toll on my body. I could tell myself to do it again. I would be like, plan it out, take your time, don't rush, and, make sure you're taking care of yourself in the process. So that was something that I really, I learned the hard way cause I got very ill actually. After launching my business and my body just pretty much broke down and I actually, it took me a year to recover. So yeah. I learned the hard way. I really learned it the hard way. Those two things I would say are really important. And especially when you're starting out. And making sure that you're surrounded by, supportive, circle. So whether that's professional, or your friends or family, even if it's just a few people it's good to have a circle that's there Your cheerleaders who are encouraging you, but also making sure that you're taking care of yourself. That's really important. and I learned that, over the course of, I guess my own entrepreneurial journey. Yeah.

Sophia Noreen: 16:38

Thank you so much. Now I want to ask you some juicy advice give us one piece of advice you wish you knew prior to starting your journey in entrepreneurship.

Sobia Hussain: 16:49

My one piece of advice would be stay flexible and always be ready to pivot. Think outside the box, especially COVID right now, I think was the best example for all of us to learn that, maybe running your business the old way, it won't work. And if you need to survive, you need to pivot and you need to change and be, current with what's happening. And be okay with the fact that you might end up doing something entirely different of course, from your plan. And that's okay. I know that a lot of businesses had to move online overnight, almost. And that was scary times because not everybody was ready for that. So they had to almost restructure their entire business and get it online to be able to be relevant to their customers and clients and people who weren't able to do that had to suffer, and, yeah. That's my biggest piece of advice, what I've from what I've learned in this current time right now.

Sophia Noreen: 17:48

Yeah. It's amazing how COVID has taught us so much about ourselves as people, but businesses as well. If you're running your own business, how quickly you had to adapt with the times they actually said, because of COVID we advanced 10 years in technology. So for example, even simple things like getting our grocery, it, we basically are ordering it online now, and that wasn't even a reality for so many people. So isn't it amazing, like just everyday tasks, like grocery shopping, these grocery stores had to pivot quickly online and figure out other ways of how to deliver their goods to their customers.

Sobia Hussain: 18:27

Yeah. Yeah.

Sophia Noreen: 18:28

As a small business owner, we have to think about those as well. Like how can we quickly adapt to the time? So I love that being nimble and being quick.

Sobia Hussain: 18:35

You have to stay on your toes.

Sophia Noreen: 18:36

I love that. Okay. So staying on our toes, I want you to tell us how do you keep yourself moving? How do you goal set and manage your time? Cause you're a busy lady. It sounds like you have family. You have two businesses. Tell us, how are you managing all Sobia?

Sobia Hussain: 18:52

You need to compartmentalize. Especially if you're doing multiple businesses. It's so important to be able to know when you can turn off that part of your brain to work on the next one. I'm keen on creating schedules for myself, and creating goals for myself, milestones that I need to hit to be able to get to those goals. I write it all down. For me, in order to function, in a healthy way, I need to have everything written down on paper. I need to be able to see it. I'm a visual learner, so everything needs to be played out. Lately actually I've been using cue cards, which is amazing. So I'm writing like different concepts and I'm posting it up on my wall, no matter how ugly it looks. But it helps me understand physically, okay, this is what needs to be worked on first. This is what's next. This is what's next. Similar to what people do with posted notes. It's helping me really, becoming more productive with the time that I have and then obviously, with family, you need to make sure that you have that time as well, quality time with your family. I am a bit of a social butterfly, so I need to make sure as an extrovert, I have that time to fill my cup as well to meet, and catch up with my friends. Somehow it all works. It's not impossible. I feel like it's how you prioritize your life, is how you can make it, things that matter to fit in. I guess my priority is, first and foremost, my kids, and then I focus on the two businesses, one at a time. And then my me time and my social time with my friends fits in there. It all seems to fit and work.

Sophia Noreen: 20:26

That's great. That's amazing. And I think that's a goal for so many of us women who are managing so many aspects, such as children, self care, our professional or personal lives, and it can become overwhelming. But if you can train your mind to just say, I'm living in the present now with my children, the businesses have to wait. The clients need to wait. The crafting of my product needs to wait or, I'm spending time with my friends. the kids need to wait. I think that in itself is a skill. And I have to say, I think that's how fortunately that's how I've been able to function. And I haven't done a podcast episode on this yet, but my friends say the reason why I'm able to have so many things going at once in my life or facets of my life is because I'm able to compartmentalize.

Sobia Hussain: 21:13

You have to, yeah, Yeah. Because I remember when I wasn't doing that, everything was constantly running. Like I had a million tabs open at the same time and it was so overwhelming. It was not healthy It was running me down and burning me out. And I realized that no, there needs to be a time for work, or a specific work. And then once I work on something else, the other one needs to turn off. And like you said, if I'm with my friends, then my mom mode turns off. So my friends actually joke that, when they hang out with me, they forget that I'm a mom because I'm just me. And then when I'm with my kids, then I'm in a different mode. And I've learned to switch between all those roles and all those hats that I have to wear. And I think that's the only way to stay sane and stay well. If you can create some kind of system for yourself, it's really important. You can't just rely on free-styling at all.

Sophia Noreen: 22:06

Oh no, you can't. You definitely can't. And some people will say that the creative juices become hindered, if you are too rigid with their schedule. And we had a recent episode with a, creative photographer and she did speak to that as well. But if you are that type of person, just build in buffer space for yourself.

Sobia Hussain: 22:23

Yeah.

Sophia Noreen: 22:23

So for example, if you're not feeling like doing something today, make sure you have other times scheduled out in your calendar. So that allows you to be creative at that time. So for you, for example, Sobia, I don't know if you can speak to the fact that as a copywriter, you need to be creative when you're doing copywriting, right? Like you are essentially drafting a blog post or content for social media. And if you have writer's block, then you know, you need to just identify it that I can't do this today, but your set some other time in your schedule and said, I'll do it another time.

Sobia Hussain: 22:56

Yeah. You need to be self-compassionate in the process to know that, you know what, it's okay. If it's not gonna work right now, what else can I do in this time? I'll get back to this another time. Maybe I'll swap, so you can't be rigid with your planning, but, the structure definitely really helps. Knowing that it's okay to move things around as well and being flexible as is so key. So yeah.

Sophia Noreen: 23:16

Yeah. Okay. Awesome. We've been talking a lot about mental health, a subtle way. We've talked. We've some of the catch phrases have come up. My next question is how are you managing your mental health and keeping everything in check for yourself?

Sobia Hussain: 23:30

I am a mental health advocate, because of the fact that I have experienced anxiety, depression, PTSD, and really serious issues. But I've been able to work through them, with the help of, again, creating the system for myself that could work through, these, I guess these challenges that I had, number one I would say is having a therapist. I know a lot of people, feel a little uncomfortable talking about it, but it's so key and it's not that there's something wrong with you. It's OK to go get help. And it's okay to just even a tuneup. When you have a car you need to go in for a tuneup every so often you can't just run your car forever and think it's going to be okay. You need to get, oil change, get your tires switched in the seasons and et cetera. So same way. I feel like having a therapist or a counselor is so important to help you manage through different stresses. It doesn't have to be depression or anxiety, but it could just be your day to day stresses, and being able to work through them or just even setting goals for yourself and knowing that someone can hold you accountable for that. Cause I know for me, now that I've been able to work through a lot of my healing, what's next? She there's always like a followup or anything at the end, there's always like a next step sort of thing that we talk about. And for me lately, it's a lot about my professional development. So I tell her, this is what I got to work on. I'm working on my website and this is what I need to do. And so she'll check up on me on the next appointment. So we were talking about this last week. Did you get that website done? Did you talk to that person you needed to talk to them? Yes, I did. And I know I have to answer her. So it's amazing. We've had this relationship for about a year and a half and it's just been exponential. And in terms of the type of inner growth that I've done. And inner healing that I've done. And I look forward to it. I actually have another appointment next week. And so I look forward to telling her all of the progress that I've made this past couple of weeks. But yeah, therapy is so helpful for me. I know that, accessibility and affordability is really difficult sometimes. For me, I found that there were local resources that were offered for women, that were at affordable costs and there are a lot of resources actually have a whole list. Maybe I can share with you, that could help you get affordable resources or even free, depending on what region you're in. So it's about doing a little bit of research and, once you find that it's so helpful. So that's number one, having a very healthy support network around you. So having, healthy friends, and what I mean healthy, I mean that, they're also doing the inner work on themselves too. They have a lot of self awareness, and respect and compassion for one another. So having that. You have your family. And taking care of my physical health is also really important and plays a key factor in my mental health. For me, I guess I grew up being a competitive runner and so running has been my life. I lived on the track, and I trained on the track mornings nights, lunch, whatever it was. I was always on the track. And so as an adult, my body's not the same anymore, but instead of running, I do walk. So I walk a lot. For the past, three years. What happened was that I lost touch with that walking side of me or the runner side of me. And so three years ago I started to walk, on the track and I would share it online and my stories and whatnot, just to feel connected to people. And I found that I healed a lot on those tracks. I was going through my divorce. I was going through all kinds of things. And the walking was the one constant thing that I had in control of my life. And so I kept at it, even when nothing else was making sense, I was like, I got to walk. this is the one thing I got to do every single morning for myself. And I literally grew into a new person there. And, I felt the changes; people saw the changes. Physically I was looking a lot better and emotionally I was feeling a lot better as well. Cause it gave me time to think being around a nature, and just a physical movement, getting your blood flowing is such an amazing feeling. It's free and it's low impact.

Sophia Noreen: 27:35

Yeah,

Sobia Hussain: 27:35

So I did that. A year ago, I actually started this hashtag called Walk with Sobia and encourage other people to start walking as well to feel the same mental health benefits that I was feeling. I'm like, guys, you need to see how awesome this is. And so a few ladies had joined and it was amazing. We would share online how many kilometers or stops for walking and it became this, little community, of walkers all across like a, GTA, but also some internal national walkers as well for Switzerland, et cetera. And, it felt really good and they felt really good. And I could tell just by their tones, they were starting to feel, a lot lighter about themselves. So it was this summer that after Ramadan and after COVID, like the main lockdown. I said, why don't I start another walk again? And I think we all need it right now. We've all been cooped up. it was June or, sorry, it was July and I'm like, let's do this. But soon after that, then I had heard about what was happening in Yemen and I felt out of touch, if I had continued the walk, pretending like nothing's happening in this world. And so I felt compelled to somehow attach my walks with a charity, initiative. And I had a talk with, Islamic Relief. and I asked them, "Hey, is there a way I can, do something with like walk with Sobia for Yemen And they said, "absolutely". And we can help you set up a page and why don't you just get started? And so I asked them why would people want to take part or donate just by watching me walk, tell me why this works. Cause no, one's getting cupcakes. I was getting a tee shirt. It's very abstract. And but they're like, "no, you encourage them to join you as a walking and then people can grow in terms of awareness of what's happening in Yemen. That might help, encourage donations". So I'm like, okay, you know what, no harm in trying, I was going to start this walk anyway for July. So let's do a for Yemen and lo and behold, I didn't see what was going to come after that. And at the end of that month, we ended up raising 10,507. That was $750. So 10,000. $750

Sophia Noreen: 29:44

That is amazing. That is amazing. and I think that story is layered with so many positive things just for the charity, but also, so for all the women. We all know that there is huge benefits to your not just physical, but mental health was physical activity. So you really did everyone, a huge benefit by raising the awareness, raising money, and then also encouraging others to go out and be physically active. What I loved about that story is you essentially carved out a time in your day and made it consistent. I think a lot of people, when we talk about mental health and check-ins and self care and self awareness, people are not consistent. And the fact that you made a point, it was a very hard time in your life, but you made a point of saying, I'm going out there and I'm going to walk every single morning. This is my time alone, away from the kids. And then you were sharing that story with others, I think is very humbling. And also it's beautiful because you're encouraging others in the community to take part. So I love that. And, I know therapy is so important, yes, we'll definitely take your websites to share, if our listeners want to find these, resources, we'll link them in the show notes. It seems that these were resources are, have a higher accessibility, so we'll definitely link those in the show notes.

Sobia Hussain: 31:08

Absolutely.

Sophia Noreen: 31:09

Thank you so much Sobia. This episode was amazing. It was very practical advice for being so raw with your story and sharing some parts that, how personal life will sometimes work its way into entrepreneurship and how it's okay to pause. Or venture if it's not lining up with your personal goals at the time and your personal life. We really appreciate that. And thank you for being so vulnerable. We want our listeners to be able find you. Where are you located? What social media handles so we can take it in the show notes. And if somebody is really quick and not driving, they can pull out their phones and find you right away.

Sobia Hussain: 31:43

I'm most active on my Instagram. So you can find me at @sobiasmiles. I do have my, Olive Tree page, which is @olivetreesoap on Instagram. And I'm starting to build my Conscious Marketing Boutique platform. Although it's very fresh right now in new. In terms of my services, and just a bit of my blog posts and whatnot, and you can go to Sobiahussain.com. And connect with me there. I think those are the best platforms you can find me at.

Sophia Noreen: 32:10

Wonderful. Thank you again, Sobia for coming on and spending this time with us. And remember guys, make a plan and take action and yes, you can have it all. Thanks again, Sobia. Bye Guys

Sobia Hussain: 32:22

Bye Everyone.

Sophia Noreen: 32:25

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